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  • moonshimmer 3:49 pm on September 3, 2020 链接地址 | 回复  

    对 joseph 争议推文的个人回应 

    • JOSEPH 非对人权问题保持沉默,他只是没有每天都在推特上发表意见。
    • 在我看来,他的追随者们希望他做的事情是很蹩脚的,或者说不是人所能做到的。 在百万人的注视下,发自内心地写下对社会问题的看法是很难的。对于那些不努力想问清楚他们每句话是否真心的人,这不难。
    • 仅仅就社会问题发言并不难,每个有心人都可以做到。但你是真的在用你想说的方式说你想说的东西,还是你只是因为你觉得你应该这么做?
    • 虽然保持沉默不是犯罪,但拖住一个在某些事情上沉默的人是找不到借口的。
    • 还有……如果你真的关心人权,你绝对不会把重点放在 “发个链接 “上,这几乎是最廉价最方便的方式来表示对事的支持,然后你就不会有任何麻烦了,这几乎就像你不真的想谈论这个问题一样 – 真的谈论和思考这个事,而不仅是表示对它的支持。
    • 我可以看到白人如何将他们的罪恶感投射到一个公众人物身上,这并没有让事情变得更好。
    • 白人有原罪,我们都有。背负沉重的负担,做任何你能拯救自己的事情,只是不要把你的重担给别人。
    • 尊重一个艺术家意味着相信他能用 “黑人的生命很重要 “这样的字眼以外的形式来表达他的情感。

    • joseph is not silent on human rights matter. he just did not tweet about it every day.
    • what his followers want him to do is lame, or not humanly possible, in my opinion. writing from your heart to talk about social issues while watched by million of people is hard. it’s not hard for people who don’t try really hard to ask if they are genuine.
    • it’s not hard to just speak on social issues. everyone who has a heart can do that. but do you really want to say the things you say the exact way you want to say it, or do you just do it because you feel like you are supposed to?
    • while it’s not a crime to stay silent, no excuses can be found for dragging someone who is silent on certain matters.
    • and … if you really care about human rights, you would definitely not put the focus on “posting a link”. it’s almost the cheapest and most convenient way to show the support for a cause and then you have no trouble. it would almost be like you don’t really want to talk about the issue. like really talk and think about the cause. not just show support for it.
    • calling out a white man for his race is racist by its definition. and i can see how white people project their guilt onto a public figure. it doesn’t make anything better.
    • white people have original sins. we all do. carry the weight, do whatever you can to savior yourself. just don’t give your weight to someone else. dont guilt other people.
    • and. respecting an artist means trusting him to convery his emotions in forms other than words like “black lives matter”.
     
  • moonshimmer 3:16 pm on September 3, 2020 链接地址 | 回复  

    约瑟夫因讽刺推文遭受非议 

    泰勒·约瑟夫在发出一条炫耀自己新鞋的讽刺推文之后意外受到粉丝非议。因新冠疫情和美国黑人民权运动等事件使得美国社会乃至世界陷入黑暗境地,twenty one pilots 乐团粉丝多次对 Tyler Joseph 未能利用自己的影响力,尤其没有利用社交媒体网站的巨大关注量去推动改变而感到不快。

    约瑟夫的推特上写道:”你们这些家伙一直让我用好我的平台。让我掸一掸这双酷家伙上面的灰,这感觉好极了。”这显然是对他的粉丝们的回击 – 他们希望他用推特来提出社会问题,而他特意用 Twitter 来摆姿势,炫耀酷鞋。

    这引起了一些巨大的反击。twenty one pilots 乐团的忠实粉丝西奥(@sunnwillrise)立刻表现出愤怒,称他的行为 “非常非常低级,在很多层面上都不尊重人”。二十一飞行员的信息账号 @topupdating、@topupdated、@TOPUPDATERS 和@DiscordClique 也表达了自己的不满。@topupdating 用 “掸一掸你的笔记应用吧,该道歉了”回复了这条推文,并发布了多条针对约瑟夫的长文,因为他 “创下了新低”;@topupdated 说:”如果你没有看到 @tylerrjoseph 的任何一条推文有问题,你就是问题的一部分。”

    约瑟夫回应发布了美国预防自杀基金会的链接,并讨论了心理健康问题,但他决定为自己的推文辩护,称其 “太棒了”,并明确表示这不是道歉。

    这让追随者们再次不悦。@DiscordClique说,在约瑟夫 “明确表示……支持BLM”之前,文字频道将被关闭。@TOPUPDATERS说,在 “发出道歉 “之前,他们将停止更新。@topupdating 质疑:”你站在哪一边?”

    约瑟夫之后“为伤害任何人道歉”,并说了 “黑人生命重要 “这几个字。


    Joseph’s Tweet read, “you guys keep asking me to use my platforms. feels good to dust these bad boys off.”, which apparently meant as a fire-back at his fans – they want him to use Twitter to raise social issues and he purposefully used it to pose and show off cool shoes.

    It caused some huge blow-back. Huge fan of twenty one pilots, Theo (@sunnwillrise), showed anger immediately, calling his behavior “very VERY low and disrespectful in so many levels”. Information accounts of twenty one pilots, @topupdating, @topupdated, @TOPUPDATERS and @DiscordClique expressed their discontent as well. @topupdating replied the tweet with “dust off that notes app for your apology.” and posted a long thread directed at Joseph because he “hit a new low”; @topupdated said “If you don’t see an issue with any of @tylerrjoseph’s tweets, you are part of the problem.”

    Joseph responded by posting a link to American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and discussed mental health issues but decided to defend his “platform tweet” by calling it “fantastic” and made it clear it was not an apology.

    It upset followers again. @DiscordClique said text channels would be shut down until Joseph “explicitly state(s) … support of BLM”. @TOPUPDATERS said they will remain inactive until “an apology is issued”. @topupdating asked, “Whose side are you on?”

    Joseph later apologized for hurting anyone and said the words “Black Lives Matter”.

     
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